Crate or no crate???

russki1313

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Hi everyone,
I just got a 5 month old sheltie (blacky) yesterday from a breeder.
I am having hesitations of whether or not i need a crate for him.

He is pretty good at holding it in, he has had one accident #1 and one #2 that was possibly my fault, gave him a lil to much yogurt in the morning, but he loves it soo much.

So do you think i should get a crate?
Or how should i procede

Thanks guys ahead of time
 
I would suggest that using a crate is the easiest and fastest way to house train.

I will also say that it isn't the only way. I know many people who have trained their dogs without the use of the crate.

The benefit to me is that I always have a place that the dog considers a safe and happy place for their entire life. So if we're vacuuming, or a repairman is coming over, or visiting pets, or a person who is scared of dogs, they are totally content just hanging out in their crates. I highly recommend this training method for that reason alone.
 
I am a 20-year proponent of crate training! I just don't know how I'd house train without it!

Not only does it provide a convenient place to confine your dog when the need arises, it also provides the dog with a safe haven from anything annoying or upsetting that might be going on in the household.

My dogs have always been fed in their crates. It makes the crate a wonderful place to them, and somewhere they would go voluntarily.

I've also always had my dogs sleep in their crates next to my bed. That way, they can see and smell me, and they are not separated from their "pack" at night. It's comforting to them, especially if they can see you from the crate.

After a few years of training, I do usually let them sleep on the bed with me, and keep the crating to a minimum, but still keep the crates around as a safe haven.
 
I am a 20-year proponent of crate training! I just don't know how I'd house train without it!

Not only does it provide a convenient place to confine your dog when the need arises, it also provides the dog with a safe haven from anything annoying or upsetting that might be going on in the household.

My dogs have always been fed in their crates. It makes the crate a wonderful place to them, and somewhere they would go voluntarily.

I've also always had my dogs sleep in their crates next to my bed. That way, they can see and smell me, and they are not separated from their "pack" at night. It's comforting to them, especially if they can see you from the crate.

After a few years of training, I do usually let them sleep on the bed with me, and keep the crating to a minimum, but still keep the crates around as a safe haven.

What Jaynie described is exactly the way we do it with our two puppies that are 5 months and 3 months. They gladly go in their crate and its right next to our bed!
 
I have never crated any of my dogs. I took them on the bed with me at night - they sleep the night through since they were little. Because I have an antique bed that is high off the floor, they are able to get under. Emma will disappear during the day and that is where I find her. She had been started on crate training when I got her, but I found just confining them in a certain area of the house when they were young was enough.

It comes down to an individual decision as to whether you crate or not. If things had been different in my house - if I had not had someone home during the day - I may have looked at crating. What turned me off crating was how my sister handled it with her Shelties - confined in a small crate for a number of hours.
 
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it sets the dog up for success, plus if you ever want to do any agility or any type of sports the dog is safe and comfy in a crate!
 
I was not sure about crate training either, but during our research phase, all the books we consulted said that crates not only made training easier on the humans, but also served as comfy safety zones for the dogs, as others have also mentioned. So, we decided to crate train Lerwick. I'm so glad we did, because he really does see his crate as his "spot." In fact, he's napping in there of his own free will right now as I type this. :)

Once we decided on crate training, we had to decide what type of crate to get. Did we want a wire crate that would feel very open, or one with plastic sides that would give more privacy and feel more "den-like?" We went with the wire crate, and I'm very glad we did, because Lerwick likes to be able to see what is going on. We first tried putting his crate in a quiet corner of the living room, but we found he always lay in a spot where he could see the whole room, so we put his crate there, and he started sleeping in it by choice.

We make sure his crate is always available to him, so during the day we have it out in the living room, with the crate door open so he can go in and out as he pleases. At night we bring the crate into the bedroom with us and shut him in the crate while we sleep. That way he can be with his pack, as Jaynie said, while still being confined. He goes right to sleep and doesn't make a peep until 6:30 a.m. when he whines to go outside for his morning potty trip.

Much like Jaynie said, we feed Lerwick in his crate, and whenever we give him treats, we send him to his crate to receive them, so he is pretty good about going into the crate on command these days. And, like I said, he goes in there to nap or just relax sometimes.

We have also found that the crate helps with car trips! Lerwick doesn't like riding in the car, and would whine and pace and try to crawl up me and hide his face against my neck. He wouldn't sit still or lie down, it was a real pain going anywhere. So, we tried putting his crate on the back seat of the car and putting him in it, and now car trips are no problem. He paces the crate twice when we first start driving, then lies down and is relatively calm the entire trip. He even willingly gets into the car on his own now, instead of struggling and trying to get away like he did before.

As for housebreaking... Lerwick is 5 months old and we are still working on the housebreaking. I honestly don't know what we'd do without the crate, and bear in mind that I am home all the time. He is 95% reliable, but still sometimes decides it isn't worth the trouble of asking to go out when he has to go #2. Just two days ago I caught him when he was about to go in the back hallway. So, he doesn't have full access to the whole house yet, because I need to be sure I can see him and get to him in time if he decides to make a bad toilet decision, LOL. So I definitely don't think he'd make it through the entire night without an accident. Without the crate, I suspect I would be cleaning up dog mess every morning when I got up. Lerwick also likes to chew on a corner of the carpet by the stairs, and also chew on the cat's scratching post, so if I wasn't cleaning up dog mess, I'd be cleaning up vomit piles of carpet fibers and cardboard scraps. :rolleyes2:

And, as others have said, the crate is also useful for those times when we need to get him out from under foot for a few minutes, or when we leave the house on errands, or whatever.

I do hope that eventually we will be able to trust Lerwick with the run of the house at night and when we are out of the house, without having to worry about potty accidents or destructive behaviors. But even then, I will still keep the crate around for him to use, because he genuinely seems to like it.
 
Both Mikos and Brie were crate trained when we got them, and both slept in their crates at night and were in the crates when no one was home. We had decided that we would start with the crate when Mikos arrived but once he got used to us we would probably not bother. It has been 10 months now and he still stays in his crate at night and when no one is home, and he does not mind it at all. When Brie first arrived she would often go and sleep in hers because I think it was her comfort zone. The crates are in my son's bedroom and they run into them at night or when we go out to get their treat. We had never believed in or used crates in the past but getting these 2 crate trained dogs has changed our opinion. They are safe in their crates when we are asleep or not at home and this gives us incredible peace of mind!
 
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