I think Eevee is blind after spay...

sorry to hear about eevee, i hope it is just a case of an issue with the anesthesia and nothing more.

Yes if everyone goes back and reads Eevee was spayed at a lowcost clinic (I despise them but thats another thread) Of course like Dr Mac stated the vet she went back to her regular vet for care so of course that vet is going to charge. Its not like they did the initial surgery, which even from reading im wondering if there was on going issues that were never picked up on and extra care should have been used during the spay, say using a different anesthesia and maybe an MDR1 test before hand...
 
Unfortunately, the low-cost clinics do not provide the before and after care our own vets do. That is why I will never had a dog spayed/neutered at one. If something goes wrong, then your own vet has to track down what was done and what went wrong. It is like you going for surgery somewhere else, running into problems, and presenting to the local emergency room.

Hope Evee continues to improve. Definitely consider MDR1 testing, especially if she is going to have to be on medications.
 
sorry to hear about eevee, i hope it is just a case of an issue with the anesthesia and nothing more.

Yes if everyone goes back and reads Eevee was spayed at a lowcost clinic (I despise them but thats another thread) Of course like Dr Mac stated the vet she went back to her regular vet for care so of course that vet is going to charge. Its not like they did the initial surgery, which even from reading im wondering if there was on going issues that were never picked up on and extra care should have been used during the spay, say using a different anesthesia and maybe an MDR1 test before hand...


I thought so! So the low cost clinics don't pull a CBC before surgery? To me it seems like basic pre op care.

Sorry, staying on topic here :o
 
You might have missed this the first time around. healthypets.mercola.com/livershunts I came across this and thought it would be of interest because it mimics so closely your Eevee's symptoms.



Kate
 
I had no idea that blood works are supposed to be done before spay/neuter. All my neighbors and friends went to low cost clinic to get their dogs spay/neutered. When I told them that I was thinking of going to my vet, they said theres no need. This is our first ever dog, so we didn't know.

If they did the blood works and found something wron with Eevee's liver, I guess they would have used lower dose of anesthetic. But the liver problem will still be there afterwards and my regular vet would be the one treating that. The lady vet I saw (because my vet is away) did the blood works and told me about high liver enzymes and that I need to do an ultrasound, function test etc. Nothing else said. Nothing about treatment. She said its not an emergency so I can wait until my vet comes back.

Then lastnight Eevee had a seizure which temporarily blinded her. I took her back to lady vet. She gave Eevee lactulose to help the liver after I insisted she presume Eevee has a liver disease and treat it. If there was something to help liver, why didn't she give it to me 5 days ago? It might have avoided the seizure. Today's bill included $100 hospitalization fee because Eevee was at the vet getting IV fluids on top of $150 IV fluid fee.

If I hadn't said anything that vet wouldn't have given Eevee anything. That makes me so mad. I read about milk thistle so I ordered and gave Eevee one pill. Apparently it does wonders for dogs with liver problems. Again, I wasn't told about this. I found out from reading the posts here. I don't trust this lady vet. I want a second opinion.

Today I called a different vet. She says there are supplements you can give to improve liver function and many more things you can do before jumping into an ultrasound. I'm wondering why such a different approach??
 
What a nightmare!!! I'm so sorry you're lil Evee is going through this, but, glad to hear her vision is back. Chris says the "best" prayers!!! I too, pray for a full, permanment recovery! GET BETTER EVEE!!!
 
Lady vet said she doesn't think the seizure was related to anesthesia because it's been almost 6 days. She thinks Eevee has liver issues that we didn't know about and the seizure is due to the toxins that built up in Eevee's bloodstream gone to the brain. Eevee has had 4 UTi's since we got her last June. I'm not sure if all of these issues are related somehow...

Eevee ate dinner, peed n pooped and wanted to go for a walk. We went for 10 min and she was soooo happy after sitting down for 8 hrs getting IV fluid. She still has catheter in her legs. If she's not feeling well, I'm taking her back to get more IV fluids. Hope this helps to detoxify her blood so her poor liver can process it. Don't think it's helping that she's on 250 mg clavamox for her UTI. Her poor liver is totally over worked!!
 
Sorry to hear Evie is having all of these issues. I would have the Ulttrasound done so you can see what is going on inside and than go from there. I don't see what the lady vet is doing wrong she is just trying to treat a dog who was presented to her with issues after being at a clinic. All she wants to do is get to the issue and than treat. That's what it appears to me anyway. The ultrasound will tell her what is going on with the organs. I wouldn't be so quick to write her off. She didn't cause the condition your dog is in.
 
I had no idea that blood works are supposed to be done before spay/neuter. All my neighbors and friends went to low cost clinic to get their dogs spay/neutered. When I told them that I was thinking of going to my vet, they said theres no need. This is our first ever dog, so we didn't know.

If they did the blood works and found something wron with Eevee's liver, I guess they would have used lower dose of anesthetic. But the liver problem will still be there afterwards and my regular vet would be the one treating that. The lady vet I saw (because my vet is away) did the blood works and told me about high liver enzymes and that I need to do an ultrasound, function test etc. Nothing else said. Nothing about treatment. She said its not an emergency so I can wait until my vet comes back.

Then lastnight Eevee had a seizure which temporarily blinded her. I took her back to lady vet. She gave Eevee lactulose to help the liver after I insisted she presume Eevee has a liver disease and treat it. If there was something to help liver, why didn't she give it to me 5 days ago? It might have avoided the seizure. Today's bill included $100 hospitalization fee because Eevee was at the vet getting IV fluids on top of $150 IV fluid fee.

If I hadn't said anything that vet wouldn't have given Eevee anything. That makes me so mad. I read about milk thistle so I ordered and gave Eevee one pill. Apparently it does wonders for dogs with liver problems. Again, I wasn't told about this. I found out from reading the posts here. I don't trust this lady vet. I want a second opinion.

Today I called a different vet. She says there are supplements you can give to improve liver function and many more things you can do before jumping into an ultrasound. I'm wondering why such a different approach??

First off,let me clear something up,and its only becuase I am now re-reading the thread.

There is nothing wrong with low cost spay/neuter clinics. They are very well equipped,some better than others.

I do know that in any way shape or form,if I did not trust a low cost spay neuter,I would hav e NEVER EVER entrust them with our Mia.

For them to take in thier only ever blind & deaf dog,and knowing there could possibly be complications from anesthesia,they said they were well equipped ,and would give her the best care ever. They exceeded that.

My other 2 vets would not even think to put her under without a bill less than 700.00. That is no lie. Becuase she was that much of a risk.

I left Mia,that day with alot of fear,but having her spayed was important as well. She did marvelous.Came home the very same day.

I did sign papers for appropriate blood work to be done prior to the surgery.I felt it was important.But I must add,it was MY choice. It is also the choice I would make if I went to one of my other 2 vets I use.
So I am not discounting thier protocol,or procedures. I am sure they did a great job.

The underlying issue with Evee is obviously something more than the spay. And having a second opinion is way to go. Either with your regular vet,or a new one.

Now getting back to the visit today,now I realize she was taken to a vet,and NOT the clinic she was spayed at. These clinics do not usually do stiuations as this,they are strictly spay/neuter clinics,thats it. They will see the pet if complications arise from the procedure.

So in that case the fees that were charged were I am sure customary,and needed to be done to get to the root of the problem. So my apologies. But if good care is to be givin,and they were doing what they felt deemed needed,then a bill is what one needs to pay. It stinks I know,but we are all pulling for this sweet babe,and I know you want her well also.
 
Yes, I know. The lady vet didn't make Eevee sick. She's only trying to help. I'm just sooo frustrated with everything and being mad at myself.

The other vet I called today was telling me that the lady vet should have waited few weeks to do the blood test because anesthesia can increase liver enzymes levels. So what she's seeing can be false. We never did any blood works on Eevee so we have no idea what her 'basal' levels are. I have no idea why Eevee had a seizure last night. Now I'm reading up on dogs having seizures. After seeing all these things happening to Eevee, my 10 year old daughter is now saying she wants to become a vet and heal her. :-)

I just feel soooo guilty for taking her to the low cost clinic. If she was spayed at our regular vet, I guess they would have done the blood tests, and if the liver enzymes were high, adjust the anesthetics accordingly and Eevee wouldn't have had such hard time waking up after the operation.

After the operation however, we would still be dealing with her liver issues. I read the article on the livershunt Kathy posted a link to. Does sound like this is what Eevee has. We are getting an ultrasound done next week. Wish us luck and please keep Eevee in your prayers.
 
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