Jumping on door..pooping inside..HELP!

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My poor Max...I think I created a monster! He is the sweetest thing in the world..but..! We have 2 older golden retrievers who helped Max learn potty training early. Now though at 8.5months he not only poops on carpet after being let in...(I did just read previous link to this), he jumps on glass door when put outside. And I mean he jumps continuously, whether put out because of indoor pooping or just put out when I come home for lunch. I understand he wants to be with me...more important than current bladder call! He does not urinate inside...but I need some QUICK advice on QUICK solution for his rebellious pooping and help in getting him to stop jumping on door. I do NOT believe in electronic shock collars or such.

Anyone with experience and good results...please offer suggestions and help!

Thanks in advance so much! Jen
 
oh, thats quite a problem. Well here goes, if he's in a yard can you possibly limit him from having access to the door? we don't want him breaking it when he's outside.

To quickly remedy the problem, bring him outside yourself, stay with him till he goes potty, and give him a command to 'go potty'. Then praise him when he does go potty. You are not praising him FOR going potty but for WHERE he is going potty. He should be on a leash for this excercise. Continue doing it until you feel he is reliable again.

On another note it sounds like he could be suffering from some severe separation anxiety. Is he a velcro dog when your home? When your not do you confine him? if not do you come home to things destroyed ever?
 
I am not sure if info you given is enough to understand the problem.
Shelties do like to be with their owners so if he is outside he wants you to come out and play with him or he wants to be inside with you... running in the backyard is not enough for mental stimulation, he needs structured walks and training to release his energy, he is teenager at 8 months so lots of extuberant energy to be released...
crate him indoor if you not able to supervise his pooping or leash him inside of the house and keep him near you until you figure out WHY is he pooping inside.... is it only on one carpet? can you remove it?
 
Herd4fun gave good advice.

A specific outdoor place for a poop yard and I would work on leash, which I know can be difficult. Constant watching while indoors and if you catch him in the act a LOUD, AH AH NO NO and briskly get him outside and ignore him outside until he does his business, then TONS of praise.

You must keep him from jumping at the glass door, which means getting him away from it all times outside. You didn't say how big the pupper is but a 8-9month old sheltie (same as ours) can be 20 pounds and that can break that door.

You stated this occurs at lunch and that makes me think separation anxiety as well. That can addressed in other threads.

First, specific poop yard
Second, keep him away from glass door by barricade or by keeping him on leash outside for the whole time.

(This was just quickly answered. The others will chime in with even better ideas.)
 
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Ohhh and a product called Nature's Miracle for the clean up inside. He must not be able to keep scent associations going on. This is a must!
 
Can you tell us a little more?
1) Is he crated when you go to work?
2) Are you able to go out with him at lunch?
3) What happens if you leave the door open?

My 'quick' suggestion is put a leash on him and take out to go potty. Stay out until he goes. Set up a 'potty time' routine of taking him out on a leesh appx. 2 hrs after eating. Take a bag of treats with you. When he goes potty say 'Good potty!' in a high pitched excited in a good way voice and give him the treat.

This will do three things. You'll stop him from pooig in the house imediatelly, You'll teach him a very useful command. (He will eventually pair the word 'potty' with going to the bathroom. Then when you go on a road trip, you can hit reststop and tell him to take a dump. And finally, You get to spend some quality time with him. I'm thinking the jumping on the glass is him wanting to be with you rather than outside alone. :)

rofl.. I post and while I'm typing you get 4 other responses with the same advice.. Good to know we're all on the same page here.
 
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Regarding limiting access to the door...I thought of that, but it's a double french glass door (one opens) and have no idea. I started, with him on outside of door and me on inside, telling him numerous time, "Max...potty outside now, go potty outside",till he began to slowly back up and go to steps to get to yard. This seems to be working, but he still jumps on door when wants in.

Regarding going out with him, when I go out with him, he get so excited, he begins running around picking up sticks and begins chewing them...forgetting he needs to do his business. I did tell him, "Potty Outside" while out there with him..but he seemed not to listen. Was I not patient enough. Should I have let him continue to chew sticks until he tired and decided to do his business...then praise him with, "Good boy, good potty outside"?

Fortunately, he NEVER destroyed anything in the house! The other dogs probably deserve credit for help here. He's really NOT velcro. He comes to rooms I'm in, but doesn't nap or need to sit/lay next to me. He's fine laying on sofa or chair in other room.

Thank you so much for your help. I'll keep appreciating any more! Jen
 
RonandJan said:
Herd4fun gave good advice.

A specific outdoor place for a poop yard and I would work on leash, which I know can be difficult. Constant watching while indoors and if you catch him in the act a LOUD, AH AH NO NO and briskly get him outside and ignore him outside until he does his business, then TONS of praise.

You must keep him from jumping at the glass door, which means getting him away from it all times outside. You didn't say how big the pupper is but a 8-9month old sheltie (same as ours) can be 20 pounds and that can break that door.

You stated this occurs at lunch and that makes me think separation anxiety as well. That can addressed in other threads.

First, specific poop yard
Second, keep him away from glass door by barricade or by keeping him on leash outside for the whole time.

(This was just quickly answered. The others will chime in with even better ideas.)
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Important addition, if you don't catch him in the act of going you can't yell at him, or punish him or anything. Dogs have literally NO time association. At that point it's your fault for not paying attention.
 
Right right, Herd4fun, I should have stated that. I agree, if you find the mess and the pup is not in the act, yelling and rubbing his nose in it (the old fashioned method) DOES NOT WORK. Dogs are snapshot learners.

Watch him. The best thing you can do is catch him in the act and bing him with a rolled up sock in the butt and say AH AH NO NO and NOT let him see you, THEN he thinks the act itself punished him! But *sigh* that is very hard to do.
 
RonandJan said:
Right right, Herd4fun, I should have stated that. I agree, if you find the mess and the pup is not in the act, yelling and rubbing his nose in it (the old fashioned method) DOES NOT WORK. Dogs are snapshot learners.

Watch him. The best thing you can do is catch him in the act and bing him with a rolled up sock in the butt and say AH AH NO NO and NOT let him see you, THEN he thinks the act itself punished him! But *sigh* that is very hard to do.
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Ok, I want video footage of you trying to do that. I could really use a good laugh right now!
 
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