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Wow, money is more important than reputation for some people. Just sounds crazy. As for telling you to stop making excuses - what the (rude word)!!!! You are your dog's spokesperson and protector, to hell with her. Got to wonder if the quality of the dogs in the class are indicative of the quality of the trainer and facility. Maybe it's time to move.

If my class doesn't walk away smiling, if we don't have lots of laughing in my class, then I feel like I'm not doing my job. Owning a dog should be fun, training a dog should be fun! I never have a problem with moving people around, I want the class to be comfortable and be able to focus on their dog and not worry about anyone else. Gee I wish I lived near you. You could help me with Tully and I could help you with Liam!

Don’t think that thought has not crossed my mind. I remember years ago when I was training Kelsey, Laddie, and Mr Chance I had a blast! Yes, it was fun just like you said it should be. It so saddens me when I get the feeling they believe I am the problem!

Liam is such a sweet pup. Yes, I am a bit overprotective when he gets frightened! I want him to trust me. How can I do that if I put him in harms way. I just can’t bring myself to do it.

I will keep looking for other classes! Thanks for the moral support!
 
Liam is such a sweet pup. Yes, I am a bit overprotective when he gets frightened! I want him to trust me. How can I do that if I put him in harms way. I just can’t bring myself to do it.

Gloria, don't ever forget that you are Liam's protector and don't ever apologize to anyone for that! He trusts you to do that and it's the most important thing you can do for him. Keeping him safe should be your first priority, no matter what any trainer says, or anyone else for that matter. Once something happens, the effects and damage can be very long-lasting.
 
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Gloria, don't ever forget that you are Liam's protector and don't ever apologize to anyone for that! He trusts you to do that and it's the most important thing you can do for him. Keeping him safe should be your first priority, no matter what any trainer says, or anyone else for that matter. Once something happens, the effects and damage can be very long-lasting.

Thanks Ann! When that trainer said stop making excuses for your dog... it really set me back thinking I am the problem.

Yes, I do think he falls into the range of overly shy and that might have a hereditary component. I would rather deal with a shy dog any day and than an aggressive one! He is so sweet and kind.

There is not a mean bone in his body! He is still young and deserve time to build confidence.
 
Such a beautiful boy! You, Liam - you are not the issue, that 'trainer' is. I hope you find somewhere else and once you do, I would write the head of that facility and let them know why you left.

Good idea. Never considered doing that! I was going to call but though better about it. She did not listen to the first time about my concerns. Maybe writing the letter will help her to understand my lack of confidence in their facilities for my boy. Sad.
 
Gloria, years ago when I adopted a very shy rescue girl who was literally afraid of everyone and most other dogs, rather than push her into going into a class with so much new and scary to take in, I called our local high school and asked if there were any students who loved dogs, possibly looking to go on and study to be vet's or some other work with animals, and would be interested in being hired to help my little dog get past her fears. 4 students were interested...I hired them for 2 afternoons a week, each session lasting 1 hr...I paid them each $15 a time. They were wonderful, initially just sitting in a circle on our LR floor with special treats (tiny pieces of baked chicken)...each one in turn would call my doggie to them, treat her, and gently praise. Soon she was greeting them at the door, all excited to see her "friends". Slowly we graduated to them bringing their own friendly dogs to the sessions and we all worked together on basic ob commands as well as some added playtime...first here inside the house and outside...then graduated to going to safe public parks (not dog parks where you can encounter some uncontrolled aggressive dogs) to do the training. After 6 months there was no need for them to continue coming...which was bitter sweet...I was delighted with how much confidence my gal had gained but we missed seeing the kids. Sometimes a formal class is too much, too soon, for a dog who lacks confidence especially a class that is lead by a really bad trainer! Negative experiences in such a class could potentially set Liam back and leave damage that might never be fully undone.

Liam is such a handsome boy, I love his big soft gentle eyes.

Trini
 
That photo of Liam says it all, he looks "soft", sensitive, a little tentative, very sweet but unsure. Just presents a different kind of challenge but I know you will find a way forward with him. don't give up, Gloria. He will blossom eventually with patience and time.
 
Gloria, years ago when I adopted a very shy rescue girl who was literally afraid of everyone and most other dogs, rather than push her into going into a class with so much new and scary to take in, I called our local high school and asked if there were any students who loved dogs, possibly looking to go on and study to be vet's or some other work with animals, and would be interested in being hired to help my little dog get past her fears. 4 students were interested...I hired them for 2 afternoons a week, each session lasting 1 hr...I paid them each $15 a time. They were wonderful, initially just sitting in a circle on our LR floor with special treats (tiny pieces of baked chicken)...each one in turn would call my doggie to them, treat her, and gently praise. Soon she was greeting them at the door, all excited to see her "friends". Slowly we graduated to them bringing their own friendly dogs to the sessions and we all worked together on basic ob commands as well as some added playtime...first here inside the house and outside...then graduated to going to safe public parks (not dog parks where you can encounter some uncontrolled aggressive dogs) to do the training. After 6 months there was no need for them to continue coming...which was bitter sweet...I was delighted with how much confidence my gal had gained but we missed seeing the kids. Sometimes a formal class is too much, too soon, for a dog who lacks confidence especially a class that is lead by a really bad trainer! Negative experiences in such a class could potentially set Liam back and leave damage that might never be fully undone.

Liam is such a handsome boy, I love his big soft gentle eyes.

Trini

What a wonderful idea. I do have several high schools nearby. I will certainly call and inquire. There is a new family that moved into the neighborhood and they have a little male tri sheltie. She ran out of her house one day to stop me as I was walking Beau and Liam. She had two junior high school-aged girls who came out to see us too. I think I will try them first as they just live around the block.

"Negative experiences in such a class could potentially set Liam back and leave damage that might never be fully undone." That is my worst fear.
 
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