Sad Sheltie story...hope he makes it out

Emma

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I wasn't sure where else to put this on the forum but I have been following this story and it really has touched my heart. On Face Book, there is a page called Help Save Jack.

Apparently the 7 yr old Sheltie that had never shown aggression before bit the 2 yr old granddaughter and the judge has ordered him a death sentence...but family is fighting it therefore Jack is in a holding pattern......

https://www.facebook.com/helpussavejack?fref=ts
 
Thanks so much for sharing this sad story. I went to the Facebook page & have contacted them. I offered to write a letter as others have done. I had a rescue sheltie several years ago that was a great dog but she became dominate & went after another of my shelties. When I went to break it up my adult daughter & I both were bitten. We didn't need medical care but it was a bad bite. She was so in the zone that she didn't know she had bitten us. Did we put her down? No. We worked with her & rehomed her to a man who had shelties previously. He completely understood her story & knew she must be an only dog & watched around other dogs that were dominate. It has been over 3 years & they are both happy together. He sent me pictures recently & she is beautiful & happy. I suggested they ask the judge to allow Jack to work with an animal behaviorist or be given to a rescue that can work with him. Anything would be better than a death sentence!
 
This is always a hard thing, because on the one hand you love the dog, but on the other hand if he bites a human the damage can be devastating. Last week my neighbor was bitten by his Cairn terrier. He had been playing with the dog when suddenly the animal, apropos of nothing, bit him completely through his left brow. The bite went all the way through the brow and nearly went into his eye. Something obviously set the dog off, but my poor neighbor has no idea what it was.

Looking at my Dickens and his mouth full of big, sharp teeth I can't help but think that, despite the fact that he's as gentle as a kitten, if he decided to do some damage, it could be serious, if not lethal.
 
I was just over a year old, we had an "older" he was about 9 at the time sheltie, I was toddling around and he was sleeping, the story is I fell on him while he was sleeping he startled and bit me right above my eye, I had I think 4 stitches judging by the scar ;) Not a dangerous or vicious dog, just old and startled, accidents happen...
 
accidents happen a lot... my parents 1st sheltie actually bit my butt when I was 3, I sat on his head, deserved it. He also would bite you if you stepped on his paws as he became older. I also when 7 decided to kiss one of my parents' friend's sheltie while camping... it bit me below my eye and almost had to get stitches in my eye. I actually still have the scar to this day.... needless to say, shelties will bite if they feel threatened or their owner is being hurt (my current 9 yr old will bite my brother if he's tickling me and I'm screaming, though not hard to break skin) Hope this doggy makes it out
 
I can't blame dogs for biting someone when they're startled or being hurt by a child. They're dogs afterall.

When I was in middle school, I decided to give my childhood sheltie a kiss, while she was clearly in a deep sleep. This of course startled her and she jumped up and bit my face. Thankfully, it wasn't a vicious bite, so I only had a scratch. She immediately realized what she did and hid under the kitchen table. No one blamed her at all. It happens, especially with kids.

While my current dog was a puppy, I made sure to tug her ears, paws, fur and tail... basically anything I think a child might do to her some day. She's pretty good and let's me touch or pull her anywhere. Although, I would never, ever leave her alone or take my eyes off of her when I have kids, but I want to prepare her just in case. She'll be an old grouch when that happens, but better to prepare her now.

I can't believe they took this dog away. That's very unfortunate and will make people think twice about seeking medical care for dog bites.
 
Olive dragged her fang down my upper leg a few weeks ago when she was jumping around like a crazy puppy after having seen the deer herd blow by in the backyard. Fortunately I had jeans on, but even so, I have a wicked bruise and the muscle was super-sore for a few days. Didn't break the skin, but still painful.

Olive was none the worse for wear. If anything my screeches of pain made her crazier.:rolleyes2:

I understand why the law works the way it does, but I don't have to like it. With people, there are more loopholes, gray areas, room for interpretation, etc, but the law still views animals as property - not emotional creatures - and that's not going to change anytime soon (if ever).
 
Bumping this thread up.....please go to the Face Book page and follow the link to sign the petition to save Jack. It only takes a few minutes....Jack does not deserve to die. They just posted the entire story on Face Book from start to now.....for those that haven't seen it
 
Without me having to read through the entire FB page, does anyone know why they aren't trying to get the dog out to go back to its original family, versus the breeder?
 
Update on Jack (age 7) in Utica jail

I would advise the following resultant to my investigations of the situation with Jack. The underlying facts are not much in dispute. Jack's family apparently lives in the town of Ilion, a suburb of Utica, New York. A relative, possibly grandparents, live in another suburb, the Village of New Holland. New Holland is a tiny place, and has a part-time "judge", James Van Slyke, age at least 84.

Jack the doggie was either sleeping or eating and a toddler either stepped or fell on him, so Jack was startled and nipped (first time in 7 years). There was a cut and 4 stitches; so far, nothing unusual. As everybody who has ever had a dog knows, a dog that takes his first nip after 7 years is not a "vicious, dangerous" dog! Town administrators took the matter before part-time judge Van Slyke, and he decided after less than 5 minutes of hearing: "Death!".

Predictably, there is an uproar. Jack was moved to the Stevens-Swan Humane Society shelter, which is under a civil contract with the Village of New Hartford to board pick-up dogs. The bill for that is running up at $40/day, for two months now (big big burden on the family). A lawyer in NYC is handling the family's matter "pro bono" and the case is on Appeal, to the Utica County Court.

There are some wrinkles: technically, since the Stevens-Swan Society building is in Utica itself, not the village of New Holland, Jack is no longer physically within the jurisdiction of the Village or the village courts, so it is dubious that the Village authorities retain any control over Jack, except through the "civil contract" aspect of their contract with the Society. Meanwhile, the protests (very loud) to the Society have led the Directors to the conclusion that Jack is now quite politically radioactive, and the Directors have told me that the whole idea of carrying out the Kill Order of Van Slyke is pretty much a non-starter. The Society is dependent on charitable contributions and that is assuredly going to dry up if they do the Kill.

If the Society were simply to unilaterally send Jack home to Ilion, there is not much that anybody is going to do. Yes, the Village of New Holland in theory could sue for damages as a breach of contract, but since they have declared Jack to be without any value (they want to kill him, remember), what are the money damages? And, as a practical matter, yes the Village could cancel the contract, but then who is going to go board the dogs for them? At this point, precisely nobody. So it is a no-risk strategy. I have to convince the Directors of the wisdom of doing this.

I have been having discussions with the real power-brokers up in Utica, the people who have the ability to make it happen, and my guess is that Jack is going to be sprung from Jail, because Utica has enough economic problems and cannot survive a boycott from angry dog lovers -or, for that matter, busloads of angry placard-waving demonstrators. My movement of a manufacturing plant to Utica is now "on hold" pending the outcome of this case - and I have made that clear.

The Internet is Jack's most powerful ally. What you folks here all need to do is start sending e-mails (and letters) to the Utica Chamber of Commerce, and the Utica Visitors Bureau, and the Rotary Club, and the Town Manager of New Holland, telling these people that enough is enough, Jack is not a dangerous dog, and he has to go back to his family "Now"! When enough heat is applied, you get results.

I will be travelling to Utica to hold meetings with both town managers and other industrialists and business leaders in an effort to spring Jack out of that jail; anyone who would like an update is invited to send me a "private message" through this board. Incidentally my dogs are all Keeshonds, plus a vast number of cats! And, don't forget the outside bunnies that call me Dad (I keep a part of the yard wild, as their personal bunny patch). Love to all.
 
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