Tramadol or Aspirin

I say trust your instincts also. I was thinking about asking your vet or new vet about giving her a concentrated, high calorie supplement. Kind of like Ensure for people. I have seen some at the pet store. I would see if her kidneys could handle the supplement. Will say a prayer for you and your girl.
 
You and Holly are in my prayers. I, too, had an oldster who was tiny - not as tiny as Holly (he was 12 pounds) but really small nonetheless. My Neechee was 17 when he went to Rainbow Bridge.

I had a similar problem when Neechee had a stroke when he was 15. I was recovering from surgery, and he and I were lying on the bed taking a nap. I woke up an hour later, and he couldn't stand up at all. Went immediately to my regular vet, who said it was time to put him down. I couldn't see that because he wasn't in pain.

I called my groomer and she told me to see Dr. Eric. He immediately told me Neechee wasn't in pain, put him on Valium and steroids but told me that he might not live through the weekend. My instinct said not to give up, and I spent the weekend by his side, as he got really agitated when he couldn't see me.

He WALKED into the vet on Monday morning, a bit wobbly, but fiesty as ever,

My point is that you should go with your feelings. If your gut tells you to go to another vet, by all means find another vet. If you have the time, call around to different practices and see if you can find someone who treats a lot of geriatric patients. They will usually be a lot more creative in finding ways to extend the life of your dog.

My best to you and your Holly. Caring for these precious oldsters is both a heartache and a joy. I will always be grateful that I was able to spend so much time with Neechee - and that last year, took him everywhere with me, including church.
 
Thanks so much for the support, this is so hard, but I did take her back to a Vet that I had used before for accupunture, she is a regular vet but also a Holistic Vet as well. She thinks its from too much Deramax and she is hopeful that we can get her through the current crisis. She is eating and holding her food down although I am currently having to sometimes stimulate her appetite. But if I can get some weight on her that would be a be plus, had to laugh my husband went to kiss me good bye this morning and she jumped up off the floor at him, something she has always down in the past, just a tad protective of her mommy (LOL) and I got a good bark when I had to leave this morning. I can't bring her to work with me I am self employed tax preparer but she gets really stressed out which I don't think is in her best interest right now. I am so glad you didn't give up on your dog and its so important to take what little time we have left with them. I am just hoping to get through tax season and take a trip to her favorite little spot up north, just taking it day by day. Thanks again! Cheryl
 
Hi Hollybears
I agree with Ann get your advise from the Vet first and foremost.

I have been giving my 13 year old Boy with renal failure and severe arthritis
weighing in at 12kig. 50mg. Tramadol twice daily along with Gabatentin 100 mg. and an injection of Catraphen once a week for the last year. No side effects other than giving him releif from the pain. He also gets Lotensin for his kidneys.
I have been told that aspiran can cause problems in dogs.
He too has lost about 1 kg in the last year, but that is to be expected in an older dog.
He is alert and enjoying his life and thats great. Oh yeh, he is hard of hearing.
I hope that this helps you to make the right choices for your girl Holly, who sounds like she is bright and alert too.
Looking forward to hearing what you decide.
Sylvia & our shelties
William 13 yrs.
Patrick 9 yrs.
Sophie 5 yrs.
and our angels at the bridge
Bonnie and Morgan.
 
16 month old with stage 2 renal disease

Hi HollyBear,

I'm so sorry to hear about your baby. I adopted a 1 year old (Piper) and after noticing some odd behaviors (excessive drinking, guarding the water bowl) I asked my vet to run some blood work. Her kidney values were through the roof. My vet reccommended a wonderful specialist to examine Piper. After a month on the regime below, Piper’s kidney values were back in the normal range. Please keep in mind thought that she is a very young dog.

Piper is on the following medication/supplement regime:

10 mg omaprazole - this has been a godsend! Cats and dogs with kidney disease often develop stomach/digestive problems which leads to rapid weight loss. Vets were previously prescribing famitodine but the newest research has indicated that animals don't absorb famitodine efficiently however, the omaprazole is being absorbed. After 5 days on the omaprazole Piper's appetite returned and is now voracious.

150 cc of fluids per day
Royal Canine Renal LP (low Protein) canned
3 Azodyl per day (kidney supplement)
1 crananidin per day (kidney supplement)
Pet-tinic (lots of B-vitamins) - her energy is back through the roof.

I won't lie. It is an expensive, time consuming regimen but Piper is so worth every penny!

I will end by saying I am not a vet (just a person who has had too many cats and now a dog suffer from renal failure as they enter their twilight years). I know that it is stressful and I wish you the very best!

Kimberly
Piper & Logan’s mom
 
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