URGENT! California Please Help!

Good news! I just got an email from Southland Sheltie Rescue in CA about the sheltie at the Downey pound I was so worried about. They are getting him tomorrow.
 
Whew! Good work, SSR, and Dannysmommy! That poor dog looked scared to death, as so many Shelties do in the shelters. Good to know he will be safe.
 
So happy to hear the sheltie rescue is getting him.

Danny's mommy, thanks for all you do to help. You are truly their guardian angel.
 
Here we go again. This happened with Whiskey too. Just got another email from SSR and the Downey pound called and said they couldn't release him to them because they just found a microchip. So they will try to find the owner I guess and will have to keep him 10 days. Wouldn't his owner call the pounds looking for him? I asked SSR to keep me updated.
 
Here we go again. This happened with Whiskey too. Just got another email from SSR and the Downey pound called and said they couldn't release him to them because they just found a microchip. So they will try to find the owner I guess and will have to keep him 10 days. Wouldn't his owner call the pounds looking for him? I asked SSR to keep me updated.

This is like Dejavu'. What is up with these shelters. Don't they check for a microchip first thing? That is certainly what I would expect if one of mine, God forbid, ended up there!! Are they sure it's not one they implanted?

Good job getting communication from SSR! I haven't been as lucky.
 
It depends on the microchip. Not all microchips are the same, and not all readers read every microchip. I know the tech at my vet's was concerned that Emma's chip couldn't be read by their scanner.
 
Ugh not again, it can be so frustrating to deal with these places. Lucy's euthanasia was scheduled when the rescue here saved her, I can't imagine our house without my big noisy bear.

- Danny's mommy - *thank you thank you* for what you are doing to help. He looks terrified, it is great to know that there are people on his side.
 
What is up with these shelters. Don't they check for a microchip first thing?

So funny story. Someone dumped a dog in my yard while I was at work. Grumble. I went to a local vets office to borrow a scanner, they gave it to me. I came home and scanned the dog. No chip. I also scanned my dog as a control. Nothing, no chip. Huh? I know he has a chip. Scanned again. Nothing. Scanned down his shoulders. Nothing. I never did find his chip.

Firstly: Chips migrate. I have a friend who is a veterinary pathologist who recently retired from the FDA. She has found chips in all kinds of strange places, like livers. She tattoos all of her dogs, not a chip in her house.

Second: With three or four different frequencies, and different makes of chips, and different scanners, not all scanners pick up all chips, especially if those chips aren't where they belong.

So don't blame the shelter, sometimes the stars don't align to find the chip.
 
So funny story. Someone dumped a dog in my yard while I was at work. Grumble. I went to a local vets office to borrow a scanner, they gave it to me. I came home and scanned the dog. No chip. I also scanned my dog as a control. Nothing, no chip. Huh? I know he has a chip. Scanned again. Nothing. Scanned down his shoulders. Nothing. I never did find his chip.

Firstly: Chips migrate. I have a friend who is a veterinary pathologist who recently retired from the FDA. She has found chips in all kinds of strange places, like livers. She tattoos all of her dogs, not a chip in her house.

Second: With three or four different frequencies, and different makes of chips, and different scanners, not all scanners pick up all chips, especially if those chips aren't where they belong.

So don't blame the shelter, sometimes the stars don't align to find the chip.

Were the batteries good in the scanner? When the batteries start to get low the scanner will not read the chips. I know because I use to put chips in everyday and I test them first by scanning them and often the scanner will not work when it was working the day before. Change the batteries and magically the chips can be read again.

A shelter should have a universal scanner and a supply of fresh batteries simple as that.
 
So funny story. Someone dumped a dog in my yard while I was at work. Grumble. I went to a local vets office to borrow a scanner, they gave it to me. I came home and scanned the dog. No chip. I also scanned my dog as a control. Nothing, no chip. Huh? I know he has a chip. Scanned again. Nothing. Scanned down his shoulders. Nothing. I never did find his chip.

Firstly: Chips migrate. I have a friend who is a veterinary pathologist who recently retired from the FDA. She has found chips in all kinds of strange places, like livers. She tattoos all of her dogs, not a chip in her house.

Second: With three or four different frequencies, and different makes of chips, and different scanners, not all scanners pick up all chips, especially if those chips aren't where they belong.

So don't blame the shelter, sometimes the stars don't align to find the chip.

Actually, all RFID chips respond at the frequency with which they are scanned. The chips that are used for pets are tuned to work optimally at one of two frequencies (125 kHz and 134.2 kHz), however, either can be read adequately using a compromise frequency of around 127-129 kHz. There are four competing protocols, one of which is 'protected' by cryptography (though for what good reason I can't begin to imagine.)

Rightly, every scanner ever made ought to at least detect the presence of any chip that has been used for pet identification; the fact that, in real life, such is not the case, is a tribute to corporate greed, and cut-throat competition strategies that would sacrifice the needs of the consumer rather than interoperate in even the least way. Neither technological challenge nor cost of circuitry were/are factors, that's for sure.

I agree that it's likely not the shelters that are to blame; the chip/scanner makers, otoh, are another story.

-Mark
 
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