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BarbV said:
I agree totally!

But thinking out loud here...rather than prohibit them entirely as they have done in Ontario, perhaps there is a way to specially license them? i.e. to owners committed to proper training etc. I know that's not full proof, and you'll still get pit-mixes showing up on Kiijjii. But maybe its a start. Better than eradicating an entire breed altogether?
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gosh, I agree it's a million dollar question isn't it?

Trust me I am not a fan of pitties for myself or in a multi dog or inexperienced household, just my personal opinion.
However, once you open that whole breed ban door, it becomes ridiculous, Families losing beloved pets who were nothing but wonderful family dogs, or like Tara mentions the dogs that are great rescues and have so much potential yet can't even go out without a muzzle, and that then is just perpetuating publics view about these animals. I have met some amazing pitties that almost made me change my mind about contemplating rescuing one but I am always hoping they find good homes, which thankfully many succesfully do and they behave like champions!! Even while little dogs bully them and the Pit's continue to behave more than approbriate!! :biggrin2:

Unfortunately the other half of the problem are BAD owners who after breed ban are still running loose (just sometimes illegally) maybe now also with dogo argentino's or mastiff breeds etc or whatever...
I am afraid a breed ban also opens the door to horrible breeding practices. Meanwhile people like 2gooddogs and her neighbours and dog lovers are left to clean up the messes...
Glad to hear they may find a better suited home for that dog... :fl
 
I actually agree with a lot of the comments made all ready, I don't necessarily have a bias against any one specific breed, Beau' one and only doggie friend, that he plays with on a regular basis happens to be a Pitt mix named Pickles, He's absolutely the sweetest thing, the same with my neighbors dog across the street. Its really not about the dog, its the other end of the leash. People use their dogs to be bully's because its not polite to just come out and punch someone in the face, yet, these same people think its okay to let their dog do the same thing.
 
The vast majority of the dogs I've seen identified as pit bulls are either mixed breed with bully features, or a non-pit purebred (staffie, dogo, bull terrier, etc.). Fine print issue, sure, but the so-called breed bans that pinpoint pit bulls are ridiculously unfair when even many so-called experts can't correctly ID a pit, creating a huge gray area for which dogs can be legally seized/PTS under the ban.

RE: pit bulls notbeing used in law enforcement. A good friend of mine has trained dogs for years, in the military and for the state police. I asked about the pit bull issue, and he said in his experience the concern was that the general public would not react well to the presence of the dog, meaning they would be fearful instead of feeling protected. Makes sense, sadly.

The American Pit Bull terrier is not a breed that was designed to fight its own, other dogs, or people. That is a huge myth. "Pit" came from the dogs taking out rats in pits, and the breed was used for bull baiting - not fighting. The fighting line is very, very recent and only stems from a few lines. The downfall of the breed really has been the lack of registration of purebred dogs by both breeders and owners - creating a drop in quality control, although it's understandable given the breed bans.
 
Toffee's Mom said:
BUT I feel it is also incorrect to assume any Shelter dog could ever even be rescued by Police, since they most certainly do NOT rescue any German Shepherds to do highly specialized police work either!
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"A German shepherd rescued from a New York State animal shelter has become one of the state's top crime fighting dogs."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/rescued-shelter-dog-now-top-york-canine-crime-224132098.html

I don't know how common it is, but it happens.
 
Update: He is still next door and will be neutured next week. They are doing the best they can for him and the husband is walking him at the park every day. He is strong and powerful, full of play and waiting for the bullie rescue to be able to take him.

Meanwhile, I am not as afraid of him (except him meeting my dogs, hasn't happened yet, and won't if I can help it) and I've taught him to sit and shake paw.

So, I found out 1) I am breed biased 2) I dislike large unruly dogs 3) I am still learning about myself and dogs all the time.
 
2GoodDogs said:
Update: He is still next door and will be neutured next week. They are doing the best they can for him and the husband is walking him at the park every day. He is strong and powerful, full of play and waiting for the bullie rescue to be able to take him.

Meanwhile, I am not as afraid of him (except him meeting my dogs, hasn't happened yet, and won't if I can help it) and I've taught him to sit and shake paw.

So, I found out 1) I am breed biased 2) I dislike large unruly dogs 3) I am still learning about myself and dogs all the time.
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oh what a great update, thanks for sharing! I was wondering how it was going.
Wow, you're seriously an amazing person, you take stock of yourself, learn from these situations AND share your experiences. Thank you, I appreciate the privilege.
To top it all off, you're teaching this guy how to have some impulse control and how to shake paw and sit at the same time, GOOD FOR YOU!! This dog will have a much better chance of being adopted, huge kudos to you!!! Already he is better for it and the rescue will be able to find him a good home, because a dog without impulse control is SOOO tough to handle for people with little experience. So what you're doing goes beyond just a shake and a sit :hugs You probably saved this big lug's life, going outside of your comfort zone and just being there, you don't have to really even like that dog!
I wouldn't let him meet your dogs either at this stage, no need to set him up for failure and your dog for potential harm, since you won't know what he would do (yet)
 
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Thanks for the awesome news! I hope he will forget about his previous hard life soon and find some nice and caring parents. This is a great experience :hugs
 
Toffee's Mom said:
Oh how nice :smile2: Thanks for sharing!!
this is the first time I have heard of it, I doubt it is common, but how nice is it to see there is hope for all kinds of rescued dogs!
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Actually, they do it on quite a regular basis. Whenever we have a dog come in who has working dog/protection potential we contact the police, and they come out to test them.

There's a poster hanging in our Humane Society of a canine team from Sudbury, with the tagline "Yes, good dogs do come from the shelter." It's a good reminder for people who avoid shelter dogs because they think they must be there as a result of behaviour issues.
Update: He is still next door and will be neutured next week. They are doing the best they can for him and the husband is walking him at the park every day. He is strong and powerful, full of play and waiting for the bullie rescue to be able to take him.

Meanwhile, I am not as afraid of him (except him meeting my dogs, hasn't happened yet, and won't if I can help it) and I've taught him to sit and shake paw.

So, I found out 1) I am breed biased 2) I dislike large unruly dogs 3) I am still learning about myself and dogs all the time.
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Great news, and congrats on going through the process of self-discovery :-). Your neighbours sound like wonderful people too!
 
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3Stars said:
Actually, they do it on quite a regular basis. Whenever we have a dog come in who has working dog/protection potential we contact the police, and they come out to test them.

There's a poster hanging in our Humane Society of a canine team from Sudbury, with the tagline "Yes, good dogs do come from the shelter." It's a good reminder for people who avoid shelter dogs because they think they must be there as a result of behaviour issues.
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I stand corrected, that is such a great idea. Thanks for sharing!!
Obviously, I also have a bias I have to start working around!
 
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