NO fence discussion

i can understand the value of having a fence.
when i lived in a apt. i had just 2 shelties. because of no yard, we had walks and walks. so they were always leashed ( unless in large safe place to run)
now that i have a house, and fenced in yards, still they do not go outside without me or where i can see them, my backyard in a cedar fence 6 ft high and concert under it, so can't dig. when they are out, back door open and i am close by. my front yard is chainlink, and they are only allowed in front if i am in the front yard.
someone once said shelties are like 5 yr old kids, albeit a very smart 5 yr old. and i would not allow any 5 yr old kid to be unsupervied.
and if a sheltie saw a squirrell to chase, 9 out of 10 would chase it..
 
rose said:
i can understand the value of having a fence.
when i lived in a apt. i had just 2 shelties. because of no yard, we had walks and walks. so they were always leashed ( unless in large safe place to run)
now that i have a house, and fenced in yards, still they do not go outside without me or where i can see them, my backyard in a cedar fence 6 ft high and concert under it, so can't dig. when they are out, back door open and i am close by. my front yard is chainlink, and they are only allowed in front if i am in the front yard.
someone once said shelties are like 5 yr old kids, albeit a very smart 5 yr old. and i would not allow any 5 yr old kid to be unsupervied.
and if a sheltie saw a squirrell to chase, 9 out of 10 would chase it..
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I must be an enigma, 5 out of 5 I've had wouldn't chase a squirrel. I still can't believe the number of shelties that have such strong instincts that they require a physical barrier. Hopefully this can explain my attitude towards the subject. I already know Levi would never take off, but I'll for sure to evaluate more closely when our next sheltie comes along, but if he ends up the same I'm quitting my job and opening my own dog whispering clinic lol.
 
Hi SilentHill… with all this ‘fence talk’ going on in this thread I forgot to say welcome to S.N., I see you just joined this month. Welcome. I have posted in this thread because I have rescues and with these types of pups I need a fence to keep them safe. My goodness… they didn’t even know how to go up steps or what a pillow was when they first came home with me, so free roam was certainty not going to happen here. If you haven't seen first hand what comes out of puppy mills, then it's truly hard to explain here in words. Tinsil's Journey (Rescue Stories) is a great read and shows why those who work in rescue are so very cautious.

Staying on topic, I think puppy mill / rescues (at the least) need (and should require) a fence yard or at least be on leash. These tend to be the pups that terrify easily and will go into fright / flight mode and will run and run and run. They may not even respond to the people they know when in flight mode. There as so many stories like this every week on Facebook. Some have happy endings some…no. So if rescue is your thing... a fence can be your best friend. I will say every one of my rescues have been different. One really doesn't care to go beyond the backyard, while the other was sizing up the fence the first day and would have bolted for sure if the fence wasn't in place.


This is just one of those topics, folks here, like me, will take a hard line on (and food / feeding too). We all have some different opinions here BUT the one thing we all agree on is that WE LOVE OR SHELTIES. So welcome and anyone loving and caring for shelties for 30+ is OK in my book. Be safe with your pups and enjoy all of the great information and topics here. Post some pics of Levi when you get a chance and Premium Members can set up photo albums (something to think about).
 
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Hi SilentHill… with all this ‘fence talk’ going on in this thread I forgot to say welcome to S.N., I see you just joined this month. Welcome. I have posted in this thread because I have rescues and with these types of pups I need a fence to keep them safe. My goodness… they didn’t even know how to go up steps or what a pillow was when they first came home with me, so free roam was certainty not going to happen here. If you haven't seen first hand what comes out of puppy mills, then it's truly hard to explain here in words. Tinsil's Journey (Rescue Stories) is a great read and shows why those who work in rescue are so very cautious.

Staying on topic, I think puppy mill / rescues (at the least) need (and should require) a fence yard or at least be on leash. These tend to be the pups that terrify easily and will go into fright / flight mode and will run and run and run. They may not even respond to the people they know when in flight mode. There as so many stories like this every week on Facebook. Some have happy endings some…no. So if rescue is your thing... a fence can be your best friend. I will say every one of my rescues have been different. One really doesn't care to go beyond the backyard, while the other was sizing up the fence the first day and would have bolted for sure if the fence wasn't in place.


This is just one of those topics, folks here, like me, will take a hard line on (and food / feeding too). We all have some different opinions here BUT the one thing we all agree on is that WE LOVE OR SHELTIES. So welcome and anyone loving and caring for shelties for 30+ is OK in my book. Be safe with your pups and enjoy all of the great information and topics here. Post some pics of Levi when you get a chance and Premium Members can set up photo albums (something to think about).
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Thanks! I actually posted a thread with pictures in the "new member" section. I look forward to posting more here, I'm pretty sure I'll agree with almost all of the other hard lines people take here as I too am strong on food quality, teeth cleaning, and a whole bunch of other topics that could potentially shorten a pups life.
 
Sharon/Silent Hill,

Did you see Ann's post?

Comments should not become personal or judgmental; members' opinions should not be called "silly," and others' comments should not be dismissed just because you don't agree with them.
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Get it? Please do not make us close this thread because you cannot follow the moderator's request (and the forum rules). Inflammatory statements are not helpful and only create drama.

This thread is off topic. Drop it.
 
I know there are a lot of people who live in cities, in apartments, that treat their dogs like children. They love them, walk them on leash, let them sleep in the bed, buy them coats and sweaters. To them the dog is a furry child. Nobody could love a dog more, and yet they have no fence. It's highly unlikely these dogs will every be strays.

And here is yet another argument. I've never seen a fence a determined dog could not get out of. Many people with fences leave their dogs out unsupervised and the dog climbs the fence, digs under, finds a spot to squeeze thru. I have three beautiful purebred strays, all rescues, and I believe long periods alone in fenced yards are the reason I have these three. The former owners thought the dogs were 'safe' inside a fence.
 
Just my two cents--I have a six-foot stockade fence around a large yard; part of that is penned off right next to the house. The gate is in the penned area. The gate is padlocked, and the only time I am not outside watching the dogs is when they are in the pen, which is usually for a period of 10 minutes or less, and I can see them from the kitchen window. When they're in the big yard, so am I. Better safe than sorry, and all that.
 
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