Piper, Piper, Piper

I just have to say it again, It's hard to believe how fast Piper is growing. They both look like they are having a great time ;)
She really has grown so fast! Still not even close to where Watson was, and he was in size. So still much smaller than Roxy!

She’s figured out house training. Buuut- is kind of subtle in her alerts yet and won’t hesitate to go in the house if she’s ignored. But she definitely gets it anyway!
 
5D6DBD59-A8A4-4712-A3C3-BED0AB0EB0BA.jpeg 2C0AAF55-D5BF-4BC3-8F1E-9393A14C4E41.png We’re early spayers and Piper just had hers done yesterday. And good thing too.

When we got her she had a deciduous incisor that’s never grew in. The last one before the canine. Well, it recently started coming in but didn’t look right. So I read up on lance teeth and the missing incisor defect they can have. I guess sometimes the deciduous one comes in and that’s it. It stays.

I contacted her breeder and sent pictures to see if they had had any similar issues before and they hadn’t. They thought that it was just her baby tooth. But I thought it didn’t look quite right.

Turns out it was her baby tooth that was in but the TIP of the permanent tooth that was erupting that I could see. Problem was, it was erupting sideways, toward her cheek instead of down against the root of the baby tooth.

I thought the other side was fine. Just the baby tooth. Nope. Turns out the permanent tooth was doing the same thing on that side too. Only instead of growing sideways towards her lips, it was growing sideways into her hard palate.

So, Miss Piper had her spay done and four teeth pulled yesterday. And keeping hell in wheels is no easy feat even with the help of meds. :gaah:gaah
 
Oh gosh poor Piper, a spay and dental with extractions.... although you're right when they are so young they pop right up like it was nothing, and then keeping them quiet is a headache. Meadow had hers at 1 year of age, so last January and I remember being pretty frustrated trying to keep her from playing with the other dogs. She had to stay in her pen a lot.
 
Oh gosh poor Piper, a spay and dental with extractions.... although you're right when they are so young they pop right up like it was nothing, and then keeping them quiet is a headache. Meadow had hers at 1 year of age, so last January and I remember being pretty frustrated trying to keep her from playing with the other dogs. She had to stay in her pen a lot.

I would much rather she deals with the extractions at the same time, we can do pain management, rather than another round of anesthesia. And I guessing the teeth would eventually have become uncomfortable/painful.

I described what I was seeing and showed the tech who took her back what I was talking about. Our vet called me while she was in the table to explain that it was much more complicated than just popping out a couple of baby teeth. She even had a second doctor come in and look before calling me.

She was not confident that the adult teeth would come in straight with as sideways as they were. Im not putting braces on her as long as the dentition isn’t going to be affected. She’s not a show dog. And she agrees when I commented that the veterinary dentist might just say to yank the adult teeth anyway so we’d be right back where we were. Her recommendation was to take all four. She has taken care of my crew for almost 15 years. She puts all the options out there for me. I trust her judgement and I think she trusts mine at this point.

So we added gabapentin for a couple of days. And I found an inflatable collar which is much much better for her.
 
Poor Piper but I think you did the right thing considering you were getting her spayed. Far better to do it at the same time, and with those teeth coming in sideways I doubt they’d have straightened up. My Piper has lance canines and we ended up pulling 2 insizors (beside each canine) to give him a bit more room (also did it when he was neutered but he was 2) and he was pretty much eating hard food the same evening. She’ll be better in no time!
 
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Poor Piper but I think you did the right thing considering you were getting her spayed. Far better to do it at the same time, and with those teeth coming in sideways I doubt they’d have straightened up. My Piper has lance canines and we ended up pulling 2 insizors (beside each canine) to give him a bit more room (also did it when he was neutered but he was 2) and he was pretty much eating hard food the same evening. She’ll be better in no time!
I softened her food the first night but I don’t think with them being incisors I really needed too. Besides, it’s not like either of them chews their kibbles anyway. :rolleyes2:

The one on the right side I never saw and assumed it just wasn’t there. So I wasn’t worried about it. I never would have thought to look in the roof of her mouth.. because that’s where that one was. My wisdom teeth grew in sideways, toward my cheeks like her one did. I ended up getting them out when they became painful in college rather than a preemptive removal. I imagine these were at the very least, uncomfortable. And it explains why her breath stunk again like a cross between rotting rumen contents and rotten deer meat. :sick::sick::sick: All my friends that were all “oooh puppy breath” when I first got her must have never smelled the breath of a teething puppy before. So gross.

And hopefully no one felt too bad for her… these are the faces of two sheepdogs miffed that rumpus time is on hold.

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I softened her food the first night but I don’t think with them being incisors I really needed too. Besides, it’s not like either of them chews their kibbles anyway. :rolleyes2:

The one on the right side I never saw and assumed it just wasn’t there. So I wasn’t worried about it. I never would have thought to look in the roof of her mouth.. because that’s where that one was. My wisdom teeth grew in sideways, toward my cheeks like her one did. I ended up getting them out when they became painful in college rather than a preemptive removal. I imagine these were at the very least, uncomfortable. And it explains why her breath stunk again like a cross between rotting rumen contents and rotten deer meat. :sick::sick::sick: All my friends that were all “oooh puppy breath” when I first got her must have never smelled the breath of a teething puppy before. So gross.

And hopefully no one felt too bad for her… these are the faces of two sheepdogs miffed that rumpus time is on hold.

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Gorgeous pictures! I just love that they’re so much alike! I love the look of the tri’s.
Ya, mine don’t chew either lol...they inhale!
 
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