Puppy Mills!

tofu pup said:
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Considering the horrific conditions in which battery hens live their brief, miserable lives, and the fact that the Prop. 2. provides only a modicum of relief to these animals (they're still debeaked, still not given much room, still slaughtered long before the end of their natural lifespan), a $0.04 cost-differential seems a pittance. It saddens me that people are so unwilling to concede any ground at all - in price, in taste, in frequency of consumption - to alleviate even a small amount of animal suffering.
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Well said, I completely agree. I am not vegan, or even vegetarian... but do support local Farmers, local products AND purchase eggs from free run producers only. That should be my choice, more importantly I am incredibly thankful that I have that option!
Only more awareness brings that choice, ten years ago you would be hard pressed to get it in supermarkets... so go organic, go!
 
Tofupup, wow thanks for diving deep on that info. I was sure it came into effect before 2015!!! :( The proposition did win by a large margin, and honestly I don't mind paying a little more to alleviate suffering. I myself refuse to eat veal since I found out years ago how veal calves are handled. I think I would choke on it.

I know it's only some relief for the farm animals but you gotta start somewhere.

Sharon
 
I would pay a premium price if I knew that during their lifespan they were treated humanely.

Problem is accessibility to these products! You can't necessarily just find them at your local grocery store!

So the idealist in me, says yes! But the pragmatist, says....I can't drive clear across the city to get a carton of eggs.

Is there a moderate position?
 
I know in our grocery stores they carry cage free eggs. Although my friend used to raise chickens so at the time I got them really fresh and free! YMMMM :)
 
you also have to be carefull of what is truley free range. a chicken can be considered free range if they are allowed out for 1 hour. which means that the door to the coop is opened for one hour a day so the birds have the option of going outside, whether they do or not, they are free range chickens.
 
BarbV said:
I would pay a premium price if I knew that during their lifespan they were treated humanely.

Problem is accessibility to these products! You can't necessarily just find them at your local grocery store!

So the idealist in me, says yes! But the pragmatist, says....I can't drive clear across the city to get a carton of eggs.

Is there a moderate position?
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I found that the easiest, cheapest, most assuredly-humane way for me to deal with it was just not to eat eggs. :biggrin2:
 
The way to do it... is have your own chickens. :). I have eight... and the shelties love to bark at them and chase them all over the yard. "sigh"
 
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