scared/hiding six month old male, sheltin

FANTASTIC news go Sheltin!

Your efforts sound like they are really paying off. I know there is a lot of debate, and certainly input from people can be a huge aid but for a pet I think the biggest thing is that you pay attention to your buddy not just mold him. Sounds like you are using feedback to tailor the training methods around to fit your buddy Sheltin and he will soon be amazing everyone.
 
I have only watched a few episodes of Caesar but he is not all bad. Some yes ,some no. I think he is right in that most dogs are underexercised, excitement makes dogs harder to handle, most dogs don't do not get constistant handling and people don't give enough feedback and direction to their dogs and reward behaviors they shouldn't be reward. He uses alot of flooding techniques which depending on the dog and their personality may work just fine or make them a mess. He seems to work alot with the aggressive dogs that others won't touch. If this is the last hope before euthanizing, which one is the lesser of 2 evils?
 
Justicemom said:
I have only watched a few episodes of Caesar but he is not all bad. Some yes ,some no. I think he is right in that most dogs are underexercised, excitement makes dogs harder to handle, most dogs don't do not get constistant handling and people don't give enough feedback and direction to their dogs and reward behaviors they shouldn't be reward. He uses alot of flooding techniques which depending on the dog and their personality may work just fine or make them a mess. He seems to work alot with the aggressive dogs that others won't touch. If this is the last hope before euthanizing, which one is the lesser of 2 evils?
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I agree, with that, but those points aren't what makes good TV, it is dangerous what he does, to the dogs AND the people who ARE trying ALL of his methods out at home... Despite the warnings!! Second he has taken dog training backwards twenty years!

Good luck correcting your charging PitBull with a tap to his hindquarters without getting redirect aggression and being bitten, if your timing isn't as brilliant as his is!
Anyhow, I will drop it and just add this article
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/31/opinion/31derr.html

Having said that it is awesome you guys are working with Sheltin and what you have accomplished already is great... and I wish you all the best!!
Let us know how it is going :) and have we mentioned PICS???? lol
 
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sheltin's more out of his shell!!

Well, before starting a debate/argument over training methods :razz:

Sheltin's doing great!

this a.m. I woke up and saw Sheltin peeking in our bedroom.
I put my hand down and he walked by so I could pet him without using 'here' nor a redirect of his leash.

He's confidently walking through our house, well much better only a little scared, but will walk by me and Barbi and let us pet him without dropping to his side or submissive!!

He still hangs his head a bit when he approaches, but doesn't run the other way.

still great progress with the use of pads when we aren't home to take him out.
Still walks on his leash and does go relieve himself outside.

but, still a bit of work with his 'scaredy pup' behavior towards other people and loud noises.

Every once in a while he will run behind me and bump my leg when I walk from room to room too, then run the other way when I look at him as if saying , 'I didn't do anything...' so he's getting more playful.
and he's certainly not afraid to let the cat know he wants to (or doesn't want to) play too.

Lots and Lots and LOTS of socialization ahead for this guy.

Barbi and I are planning on a training class in June for him too now that he will walk with us.

oh, yeh, he's still weary of eating food from hands. working on that too...

I will upload a few pics of him to my photobucket to add.
I have several of him on my phone but don't yet have a card to move them to so I can add them on my camera...

a funny note, if I can get the pic... while on a walk, I stopped by a hydrant for him and he decided that was his 'nap spot' lol

but definitely improvements. not as bad as I thought things were going to be. I just waited too long to get him started too...
 
It has been less then a month though it must seem like more. He is coming around nicely, good job.

My brother found a dog that some @#$@# had abused then left in the sun on a 90+ degree day with a small bowl of water tied to a road sign. Well, Omo was extremely timid but after a year he was sneaky and playful. He was never the alpha dog but would get his licks in with his shepherd and Dow the madman. Oh and he was the loveliest dog and just loved to be petted.

Sheltin in just a pup and with far less baggage than poor Omo had. In a year come back and read this and I think you will be amazed also. :cool:
 
Sounds like your puppy has come a long way in a short time. Love will work wonders for our fur friends.
 
Toffee's Mom said:
I agree, with that, but those points aren't what makes good TV, it is dangerous what he does, to the dogs AND the people who ARE trying ALL of his methods out at home... Despite the warnings!! Second he has taken dog training backwards twenty years!

Good luck correcting your charging PitBull with a tap to his hindquarters without getting redirect aggression and being bitten, if your timing isn't as brilliant as his is!
Anyhow, I will drop it and just add this article
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/31/opinion/31derr.html

Having said that it is awesome you guys are working with Sheltin and what you have accomplished already is great... and I wish you all the best!!
Let us know how it is going :) and have we mentioned PICS???? lol
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I just want to say I love Cesar and watch his show often. I have come to the conclusion though, that in order to make real sense of what he does, he has to make the house call. It is not enough to just watch on TV. He deals with dogs with severe problems, in my opinion, and I agree with him that many (I said many, not all) of these problems are because the dog owners are not the leaders, their dogs are. And that the dogs do not get the excersize they need. That being said, I have abandoned books on dog training and now rely on my knowledge of dogs, my dog, and recognition of my past mistakes, and what works best- most importantly, training with gentle leadership and consistency, which I see Cesar do on his 1/2 hour shows- it is TV. I would love to meet him.
Good luck with Sheltin, you seem like a very caring and capable dog owner.
Karen
 
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You've got a good point there Karen. It is a TV show for 1/2 hour. It has been editted down to fit actually less than 1/2 hour because of commercials. We don't see what happened the rest of the time he was with the dogs. Because of editting, what has been left out that should be seen?
 
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He's pretty happy now....

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I don't think he's a huge fan of bathing, but lays down in the tub :)
 
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