Shelties, Pancreatitis, Gallbladder Disease, & Commercial Food

Cubby2014

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After reading an article on gallbladder mucocele and speaking to rescuer Eva Saks who has seen this more times than she can count, I began a mission. I wanted the most appropriate commercial food to promote sheltie gallbladder & pancreas health. However, I refuse to sacrifice quality in this pursuit.

I started with a number of premises:
1. Shelties get pancreatitis easily.
2. Shelties get gallbladder disease / mucocele easily.
3. While protein under about 31% appears to be not much of an issue, the magic number for fat is 10%.
4. Someone has a convenient list of ethical companies with no recalls, no Chinese ingredients, transparency to the consumer, no complaints against them, etc. The problem is, every list is focused on the 31% protein and 18% fat which just won't do.
5. I'm American.
6. I live in the middle of nowhere so I need access to obtaining said food (Chewy).
7. Money is no object.

This group for several years has been studying dog food. http://www.reviews.com/dog-food/

If you go all the way to the bottom of the article, they have a full list of brands and formulas they like. They come up with a short list by removing brands & formulas based on the following: Products where the first ingredient is not a meat of any kind; products containing corn, soy, wheat, grain, or flour; products containing beet pulp or sugar; products that contained by-products or sauces; brands removed for serious recalls, poor ingredient sources, poor history, and poor customer satisfaction; and individual formulas reviewed based on the ratio of protein, fat, and carbs, as well as the source of protein. SO . . . taking the list of 29 ethical “brands” I examined them for good formulas. Oddly, and unexpectedly, this left ONLY these brands and formulas. Seriously, out of all the food on the market I was stunned to find this short of a list.

Addiction Dry & Wishbone Dry. They have several formulas made in New Zealand with fabulous numbers. Wishbone Lake (Duck/fish, 26%, 10%), Wishbone Ocean (Salmon/fish, 26%,10%), and Wishbone Pasture (Lamb/fish 26%, 10%), La Porchetta (pork/fish, 23%, 12%), and for dogs already suffering from known gallbladder issues and/or allergy to normal proteins Wild Kangaroo/apple (22%, 6%). This one is a little pricey, but it is a fabulous option for dogs needing very very low fat and/or a novel protein.

Annamaet – Lean Low Fat (chicken, duck, herring, 30%, 9%). I think this would be one of my chicken top contenders if I wanted a chicken-based appropriate food, esp. for a dog with known gallbladder issues.

Earthborn Holistics – Meadowfeast (Lamb, 26%, 15%), Grain-free Large Breed Dry (chicken, 26%, 13%). Grain-free Weight Control (chicken, 25%, 7%). These are excellent foods and not as expensive as many others. If I had a dog who could eat chicken these two would be serious top contenders. I leave the lamb there because lamb-based appropriate formulas are pretty hard to find.

Fromm -- Heartland Gold Grain-Free Large Breed Adult (Beef & Pork, 24%, 12%). This is my absolute favorite beef/pork recipe. Don’t let “Large Breed” fool you, the numbers are great, the dogs love it, and it seems to sit well with even the sensitive tummies. However, some dogs are allergic to beef so that is a consideration. Gold Coast Grain-Free Weight Management (fish, 25%, 10%).

Horizon – Amicus Adult/Senior & Weight Management (turkey, chicken, 30%, 10.5%). This company is from Canada and is very open about quality, GMO free, chemical free, and glycemically balanced. I think this company bears a lot of attention. If you have a very active dog, such as an agility competitor, the Legacy line has good fat content but pretty high protein (like 34%). This would be really solid for your very active dogs though. I think if my dogs could tolerate chicken, they would be tried on the Amicus recipe. This might edge out my other favorite chicken recipes based on company philosophies.

To sum up in an easily copy & pasteable list . . . My overall rankings by meat source (in order of preference):

Beef / Pork:
Fromm Heartland Gold Grain-Free Large Breed Adult (Beef & Pork, 24%, 12%).
Addiction La Porchetta (Pork/fish, 23%, 12%).

Lamb:
Addiction Wishbone Pasture (Lamb/fish 26%, 10%)
Earthborn Holistics Meadowfeast (Lamb, 26%, 15%)

Fish:
Addiction Wishbone Ocean (Salmon/fish, 26%,10%).
Fromm Gold Coast Grain-Free Weight Management (fish, 25%, 10%).

Chicken / Duck:
Horizon Amicus Adult/Senior & Weight Management (turkey, chicken, 30%, 10.5%)
Addiction Wishbone Lake (Duck/fish, 26%, 10%).
Annamaet Lean Low Fat (chicken, duck, herring, 30%, 9%).
Earthborn Holistics Grain-free Large Breed Dry (chicken, 26%, 13%).
Earthborn Holistics Grain-free Weight Control (chicken, 25%, 7%).

Other:
Addiction Wild Kangaroo/apple (22%, 6%). For dogs who need really low fat but can’t eat the chicken, this is a really solid formula. It’s pricey, but it is quality and appears to be good for dogs with a lot of allergies.
 
Sad how small that list is.. I went on a hunt for a "great kibble" too and found nothing that truly satisfied me. With that, I made the jump to prey-model raw and LOVE it - I control where everything comes from, and therefore know exactly what goes into my dog. That being said, this is a commercial dog food thread, and Cruz does get kibble as training treats. He was on Fromm before the switch, and I would go back to them if I ever needed to switch back. They are an awesome company and have always had great experiences with their customer service reps.
 
I would do raw. In fact I am reading a great resource by Dr. Jean Dodds on it. However, being in the mountains, Fed Ex will bring me dog food but not meat. I couldn't store enough to be able to do it. One of the many trade-ins living where I live. We have no room for another freezer as the husband commandeered the garage for his train/airplane/drum shop.
 
Any farms and/or butchers close by? They will often give you organ meats and offals for free, as they usually get rid of most of these. Everything else I get from a farm close by.. I actually went and visited a bunch before choosing to ensure the animals were ethically raised. Once you form a good relationship with them, I'm sure they'd be willing to give them to you at a discounted price.

Freezer space would be an issue with 3 dogs, especially if your source for the food isn't close by. I don't have a second freezer but only have one dog, so I just buy enough to last me a month before I have to go out again.
 
I buy a frozen raw beef formulation sold by Healthy Pet Products. There's a distributor not far from me and they will also ship. I buy about a month at a time. Spirit adores it, she is in great health, and everyone comments on how bright and shiny her coat is :-) Just another option if you don't want to actually compile your own food.
 
I tried mine on Earthborn Meadowfeast a while back when I wanted to change their protein. I don't know what it is about that food but all my dogs' poop tripled. :poop::poop::poop: I could not believe the volume. I mentioned it to my vet and she said that's a common complaint with Earthborn. For what it's worth.....
 
I can actually see that with Earthborn. The bags are HUGE but the product is really lightweight. Fromm is in the middle. The Addiction produces very little feces. It's almost eerie.

No, we have no farms near where I live . . . unless I want to start feeding the dogs pot. We have pot farms.
 
I can actually see that with Earthborn. The bags are HUGE but the product is really lightweight. Fromm is in the middle. The Addiction produces very little feces. It's almost eerie.

No, we have no farms near where I live . . . unless I want to start feeding the dogs pot. We have pot farms.
Between CA & CO, there should be enough pot grown to supply the "need" everywhere. Thanks for the chuckle. Having grown up in CA, it is sad how much of the agriculture has decreased. I know the drought is some of it, but most of it was urban blight and sprawl.
 
Don't forget the "delta smelt". 1 inch fish keeps water from farmers . . . last year's count was ONE fish. I hear one of the great lakes has so many they will ship them to us for free.

Back to the topic at hand though, we have the three dogs. In future we will have one dog. When we have one dog (Cubby or a future CHW since I have a thing for them), I will definitely be assembling my own meals for the dog. Maybe if we move back to the city. Until then, my best bet is finding the most digestible, ethical, appropriate food.

I actually am impressed with what I see with the Addiction foods. I may add a component of their dehydrated raw at some point. So far Addiction has had no salmonella recalls on their raw which is a good sign, I think.
 
Mine are currently transitioning to Annamaet Grain Free Lean following Beckon's bout with Pancreatitis. My vet recommended it, and I see it as a good preventive measure. I get it shipped automatically from Chewy.com.
 
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