Skin irritation

Fasb's Owner

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Hi all. Fasb has come down with a minor (I think) issue. Not sure this requires a trip to the vet, but I'd like to know if anyone has experience with anything similar and if there's anything I can do to remedy it.

Fasb has what seems to be a minor skin irritation. I noticed he had a dark mark on his skin near his collar after his last trip to the groomer (a week and a half ago). It was hard to get a good look at it, and I thought maybe he had nicked himself on something and picked up a scab. That's happened before.

The past two days I've been noticing a small black area on the back of his neck at the edge of the collar. Fasb doesn't really like us poking and prodding him, and the fur is fairly thick back there, so it's been hard to get a good look. I've been trying to get a good look for fear it was some sort of bug bite, tick, fleas, something.

This morning, we checked him more thoroughly and noticed several small black spots under his fur. A couple around his collar and a few on his back. While I was at work, my wife called a friend who works in a vet's office and the woman came over and had a look. She thinks it's a skin irritation. Not knowing my wife had called someone, I called our vet. He wasn't much help except to suggest I make an appointment. After lunch, I went home, picked up Fasb, and took him to his groomer. The two girls who work there had a look and said the same thing: skin irritation. Definitely no evidence of fleas, ticks, etc. They don't think it's severe enough to require a vet visit right now. Fasb seems to be unbothered.

I'm kinda relieved by this (was afraid he had ticks or something burrowing into the skin), but also wondering how to get rid of it. Like I said, it's hard to see the area under his fur, so I doubt I'd get a good picture. The spots are about the size of a small ladybug, fairly tiny. They don't seem to be welts. I can't see anything that looks like swelling, a bite mark, etc. The area doesn't seem to be raised above the skin like a welt. Near as I can tell, Fasb isn't bothered by this. He doesn't appear to be itching, no personality or behavior changes, scratching, etc. The areas don't seem to hurt him. He doesn't mind me touching them or pressing on them (except for not liking being prodded and examined at all, of course).

The groomers think it's being caused by the abnormally wet weather we've had this summer. I live in the mid-Atlantic. We've had some summer heat. and the last two weeks have been very humid, but the main problem around here has been rain. It seems to rain at least a couple times every week. My yard and the surrounding foilage are as green as they've ever been this time of year, probably more green than they were in the Spring.

I think it might be a reaction to something the groomer used on him when she had him about 12 days ago (the shampoo, maybe?). Not many other changes. Did open a new carton of Frontline and give him a dose, so it could be something odd about the new batch, but that's probably not likely. (He's been on Frontline his whole life).

Any ideas or suggestions? Anyone have any problem with skin problems. We've had ongoing issues with skin allergies in the past. Nothing too severe, but he does itch some and it tends to be worse in the summer. Not sure this isn't an outgrowth of that (again, it's been very humid and wet here lately).

Thanks. Any help or comment is appreciated.
 
Upon closer examination, they look a little like pimples. He's has some small "pimples" with a black head on his stomach since he was a puppy. They don't seem to bother him, and I've never been clear if this is normal or not. Not sure if the new outbreak is connected or not.
 
I've thought of that. It's close. There are a few pimples around where we put the Frontline, but there are also pimples on his back and side. Not a lot of pimples, mind you, but some.
 
OK, finally got a good look at the skin (too much fur. Hard to see exactly what's what) and talked to a few people. The outbreak is more like a rash. The black spots aren't raised like welts or pimples. The skin has simply turned black in a few spots. No one really considers it a bad outbreak. Both our vet and our groomer said they would expect it to be a worse outbreak if it was an allergic reaction to shampoo or Frontline. Basically, he has a few spots around his neckline, a few on his back (closer to the front), and maybe a spot or two on his sides that have turned dark (black). Spots are small, maybe the size of a small beetle or tiny button.

This doesn't appear to be bothering the dog. He pays no attention to the spots and is perfectly normal. Isn't scratching, digging, or biting at all. No crying. Appetite, habits, and temperment seem completely normal.

The vet is hoping this goes away naturally. He's not wanting to put Fasb on anything unless the issue gets worse or Fasb appears to be bothered. He thinks maybe it's the weather, mostly because he thinks a Frontline allergy would be worse. The groomer is certain she isn't using anything shampoo or product she hasn't used on Fasb before, so that's probably not it.

I'm thinking it's the Frontline. Any thoughts on what I should do for Fasb or how I should go about verifying that it is or isn't Frontline? Frontline has worked very well for Fasb, so I don't want to switch if I don't have to. Right now, I'm thinking of buying a pkg. of Frontline Plus from my vet next time Fasb needs a treatment (2 weeks or so). I'm hoping it's just an issue with that particular dose or the batch the last package came from.

Thanks.
 
My Dash has a skin issue -- an overgrowth of normal skin bacteria in his skin. A very different issue, but we watch the dogs' skin a lot, all 3 of them....Copper (my angel) started to have a similar reaction to what you've described to the FrontLine as he aged. What we found was spreading out the dosage, instead of applying it all in one spot, to start at the base of the neck, and apply it in 3-5 places along the spine on the skin. Our vet suggested it, and it worked well for him. But I do think a trip to the vet is a good idea, perhaps have the skin scraped to check for any bacteria or infection, just to be safe. Have you considered trying an alternative to FrontLine for a month or 2 to see if a different product has teh same/different reaction?

Best wishes!
 
Well, Fasb's issues haven't gone away, but they don't seem that severe either. He still has some sort of irritation - blackish spots on his skin. A couple seem to be crusty like scabs, but the skin around/underneath has never looked irritated infected, and they aren't falling off, so I don't think they are actually scabs. Areas around his neck have cleared up, but he has "spots" underneath the fur on his back, and a couple on his sides

We took Fasb to our vet. He's not sure what's causing it, but he doesn't think it's too serious. He thought it might be some sort of minor "hot spot", but he really thinks it's just some skin allergy - probably weather related. Fasb has had some sort of skin issue most every summer (usually itching).

In any case, it's not gotten any worse in 3+ weeks and Fasb seems completely normal. No signs at all that he feels poorly or something is bothering/irritating him. He eats normally, plays, seems happy and energetic, isn't scratching, chewing, etc.

A little concerned that it still could be Frontline-related, though that seems a remote possibility right now. He's due again for a dose at the end of the week. At a minimum, I'm going to buy a new supply. I don't quite trust the batch we have on hand. I might switch him to something else for at least a couple months.

Our vet is fairly conservative about prescribing for pets. Since Fasb seems to be unbothered and it's not really a severe outbreak, he thinks I should just watch it for now and it will probably go away on its own. Question: how do other vets handle skin irritations? Is this typical advice or should I maybe get a 2nd opinion?

Thanks.
 
Looking at him today, it looks like the problem is clearing up. Some of the spots are just disappearing. Others (the larger spots) seems to crumbling apart. They've hardened and gotten crusty. No sign that the skin beneath or around was ever irritated. The areas that are crumbling are on his back, generally nearer his rear. Not near where I applied Frontline.

Kinda bugging me. Don't like seeing little bits of stuff in his fur. Looks too much like flea dust (he doesn't have fleas, so far as I can tell).

Anyone have any experience with anything like this. Skin irritation? Could be some sort of mild hot spot problem. I've read a few things that sound similar where the problem was thought to be hot spots. Fasb has never seemed to be bothered or in any discomfort (it's bothering me a lot more than him).
 
Sounds similar to what my dog has, little brownish specks on her skin that look like flea dirt. I haven't taken my dog to the vet yet. She hasn't had a bath in a few months, so I think that might be the issue for her. At least I hope that's what her issue is.

Glad your dog's spots are clearing up!
 
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