Update: Kai'a, seizures, test results and phenobarbital

Gypsy,Chandler and I are keeping Kai,You and your family all in our prayers. I think it's wonderful you are all working together to get Kai through this. What a great support system you are for each other. Good Luck Friday we will definitely be thinking of you.
 
So sorry to hear about that Jenny. :( I do hope you get some answers soon from the neuro specialist and I'll be anxious to hear what you learn from the holistic vet! Hang in there and take care of yourselves... I know how much it can make you worry...

Hugs,
Kerri
 
i'm so sorry to hear of your troubles :( reading all the problems that we dog lovers go through for our lovies scares me that I someday may be going through it too. I wish you and Kai'a all the best, i'm sending positive thoughts your way, all your love will help her heal as well! All the best to you
 
Updates ...

Since the horrible episode on Saturday night, Kia'a, I am happy to say, has been completely seizure free and her normal happy self. I got a few ice packs ... stocked up on the HD Vanilla ice cream (thanks Ann!!) and set upon changing our routine and life .... without the Phenobarbital.

We are eating new food, Go Duck, and outside play (besides potty breaks) is a strict no no :no: between the hours of 8:00 am and 9:00 pm. She gets 2, hour long walks (one at 6 am and the other at 9 pm) and we turned the family room into a mini agility course for day time, air conditioned play. Tuesday the temp here hit 111 and it was too hot for her little paws on the ground ... I now carry the little princess to the grass to relieve herself (she doesn't seem to mind :wink2:).

I saw the neurologist today and have to admit I feel very unimpressed. I paid a small fortune to hear what I have already been told (that she appears to be having seizures) that I should start her on the Phenobarbital, and that heat may be a factor in the equation. The bottom-line? I need to have MRI and CAT scan ($1800 and $2300 respectively) to find out what might be going on. I had to force him to watch my video of Kai's last seizure ... which really pissed :mad: me off because I would think that he would want to actually see the problem instead of guessing what was going on. I actually told him that for $410 he could take 5 minutes to actually watch the patient in action (so to speak). He was less than thrilled with me too. I got the distinct impression that these people really don't care, that he could care less ... they want the $$$ for the big tests. And I found the idea of "vets" caring more about money then they did the animals extremely disturbing. Unfortunately they are the ONLY animal neuro-clinc in Vegas.

I see the holistic vet this afternoon. And although I am not ruling out further diagnostic tests, I think that I might just “stay the course” right now (Unlike George Bush Jr – it appears to be working). Kai'a seems to be back to normal ... there is no impairment of movement or any delay in cognitive response. The change in diet and the strict control of her climate seems to be working. I know it's not a 100% fix, but from the information I have gathered from you all and others I know ... seizures are things you manage and deal with, there is very rarely a procedure that completely eliminates the problem.

I am still holding off on Phenobarbital, doing what George Bush Sr. told me to do in the 80's and I am "just saying no" to the expensive scans offered by the unfeeling vet. If need be, I know what tools are in my arsenal and I will use them accordingly when and if the "war" beings. (BTW what is it with me and the former presidents Bush today? Weird)

But like I told Dr. "I Could Care Less" today, "I am still a hippie by nature ... I believe that love and peace solve just about everything." War is messy and usually causes horrific damage along the way ... I would prefer to keep Kai'a in Switzerland for now. :smile2:.
 
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Updates ...

Since the horrible episode on Saturday night, Kia'a, I am happy to say, has been completely seizure free and her normal happy self. I got a few ice packs ... stocked up on the HD Vanilla ice cream (thanks Barb!!) and set upon changing our routine and life .... without the Phenobarbital.

We are eating new food, Go Duck, and outside play (besides potty breaks) is a stict no no :no: between the hours of 8:00 am and 9:00 pm. She gets 2, hour long walks (one at 6 am and the other at 9 pm) and we turned the family room into a mini agility course for day time, air conditioned play. Tuesday the temp here hit 111 and it was too hot for her little paws on the ground ... I now carry the little princess to the grass to relieve herself (she doesn't seem to mind :wink2:).

I saw the neurologist today and have to admit I feel very unimpressed. I paid a small fortune to hear what I have already been told (that she appears to be having seizures) that I should start her on the Phenobarbital, and that heat may be a factor in the equation. The bottom-line? I need to have MRI and CAT scan ($1800 and $2300 respectively) to find out what might be going on. I had to force him to watch my video of Kai's last seizure ... which really pissed :mad: me off because I would think that he would want to actually see the problem instead of guessing what was going on. I actually told him that for $410 he could take 5 minutes to actually watch the patient in action (so to speak). He was less than thrilled with me too. I got the distinct impression that these people really don't care, that he could care less ... they want the $$$ for the big tests. And I found the idea of "vets" caring more about money then they did the animals extremely disturbing. Unfortunately they are the ONLY animal neuro-clinc in Vegas.

I see the holistic vet this afternoon. And although I am not ruling out further diagnostic tests, I think that I might just “stay the course” right now (Unlike George Bush Jr – it appears to be working). Kai'a seems to be back to normal ... there is no impairment of movement or any delay in cognitive response. The change in diet and the stict control of her climate seems to be working. I know it's not a 100% fix, but from the information I have gathered from you all and others I know ... seizures are things you manage and deal with, there is very rarely a procedure that completely eliminates the problem.

I am still holding off on Phenobarbital, doing what George Bush Sr. told me to do and I am "just saying no" to the expensive scans offered by the unfeeling vet. If need be, I know what tools are in my arsenal and I will use them accordingly when and if the "war" beings.

But like I told Dr. "I Could Care Less" today, "I am still a hippie by nature ... I believe that love and peace solve just about everything." War is messy and usually causes horrific damage along the way ... I would prefer to keep Kai'a in Switzerland for now. :smile2:.

I'm so sorry that you were frustrated with the neurologist appointment. I had a similar appointment years ago with a human neurologist when I contracted what we believe was viral meningitis (not serious like bacterial meningitis, just painful). It was immediately apparent that he had better things to do that see me, took 5 min. out of his busy schedule to basically tell me I needed a spinal tap to diagnose and if I didn't want it I could just leave. Perhaps they were related? I believe he had a name that sounded something like Dr. Dingbat (Seriously! That WAS his name!)

I can imagine how angry you were at at ignorant doctor and I would have said EXACTLY the same thing. Why go into any type of medical field if you have the bedside manner of a brick and can't talk to people like humans beings.

I too was faced with paying to see a neurologist and ordering an MRI or CT scan for Sadie. I love her like a child but cannot afford a $200 MRI. My vet said there was a very good possibility that it wouldn't show anything anyway and I'd have wasted all that money for nothing. I opted instead to put her on a medication good for neurological problems and order the Vibrant Pets Joint and Muscle supplement which helps with injuries and inflammation.

I think you'll find that the holistic vet will have much more useful, positive suggestions for ways to help Kai'a

I'm not going to be around for the next week so I just want to say I'm glad that Kai'a is doing better and good luck with the holistic vet.
 
I'm not going to be around for the next week so I just want to say I'm glad that Kai'a is doing better and good luck with the holistic vet.

I am thinking of you guys too. Kiss Sadie for me and try to enjoy your vacation. We are going to Minneosta in a few weeks and will be leaving Kai'a with my mom too. I am still struggling with the decision, but her improvement gives me a little bit of hope. Be safe and talk to you when you get back.
 
I am thinking of you guys too. Kiss Sadie for me and try to enjoy your vacation. We are going to Minneosta in a few weeks and will be leaving Kai'a with my mom too. I am still struggling with the decision, but her improvement gives me a little bit of hope. Be safe and talk to you when you get back.

Thanks, I will. :smile2:
 
Jenny,
This is great news !!!! I am so glad to hear she has been seizure free this week. You are doing a fabulous job at reworking your schedule and wasn't it brilliant for her to set up an indoor agility area for her to have some fun. Your a great mom.
I wanted to let you know I spoke to a neurologist about Chandler today and they quoted me $1500.00 for an MRI I know you are in Vegas but things aren't cheap in the Baltimore area either so your vets quote is even higher than mine. I'm not sure if I will do it or not yet. I'm going to talk to him and my regular vet again first before making a decision.
Good for you for making the vet view the video and shame on him:mad:.
I look forward to hearing how you made out at the holistic vet today.

Keeping you in our prayers,
Dawn.Chandler, and Gypsy
 
This is great news ! Pooh on the neuro... who needs them now ??

Seriously, standing by with no personal experience regarding seizures, I have to say that I am very impressed with the depth of experience that our Forum members have; and am so gratified in hearing that their recommendations seem to be having such a positive effect.

It feels really good to wind up the week knowing that Kia'a and you have come up with a plan that is working for now.
 
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