Yearly shots.

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Since Mr. Smudge just turned one I was wondering what shots I should ask for on his next vet visit. I know some people don't like vaccines, and their dogs have had a bad reaction to them. My friend who shows shelties feels this way, but her dogs don't stay sick all the time like mine does either. :dead:

Smudge's rabies shot isn't due until the middle of July. He got his heartworm test done a few months ago (negative).

When Smudge goes back to the vet what should I ask for? Fluffy was given every vaccine except the kitchen sink when she went. Smudge got two combo shots and a parvo shot.

There are some places that will not allow you to kennel your dog in their place if you don't get the bordetella vaccine. My friend claims that the bordetella vaccine gave her dog kennel cough. Fluffy has had the bordetella vaccine with no bad reactions.

So assuming that I might go on vacation sometime (Me?!! A vacation?! :eek2:) I would have to have the bordetella vaccine to kennel Smudge, and I can't take either dog to obedience class without rabies. So these are the least I can get away with.

What would you give your dog? What does your dog get yearly?
 
Yearly rabies here in SC.
Yearly consists of a booster here.(often called a 5-way)adenovirus cough,hepatitis,canine distemper,parainfluenza,parvo. There is also a 7-way booster.
 
I been using 1yr booster on DHPP and Rabies after 1yr of age and then 3yr Dhpp and 3 yr rabies(Law in MN). Justice and Diva gotten Lyme in the past but I'm waffling on the boosters this year. Ember had a horrible reaction to it, so she doesn't get it. We just have so much Lyme here or I wouldn't consider it at all. Aughh, must decide soon. There are risks no matter which I choose. I don't give any other vaccines to them as adults. My puppies get Bord. But they are exposed enough as adults I figure they can maintain their own immunity then. But I have several friends with kennels so I don't need it for boarding.

Diva had her Rabies booster in Feb and will get her DHPP booster soon. I will not give more than one vaccine at any one time to my dogs. I will for my clients if they want to but I don't recommend it.

My recommendation is to talk with your vet reguarding risk/benefit for your dog and your area.

JMO a dog who has had Demodex should go easy on the vaccines and follow a minimum vaccine protocol.
 
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I don't dislike vaccines. They can be a wonderful preventative tool and certainly have their place. However, I find the inappropriate use of vaccines rather disturbing. (for example, yearly vaccination for distemper and parvo which have been demonstrated time and time again by serology as well as challenge studies to have a longer duration of immunity)

My dog received parvo/distemper and rabies vaccinations as a pup and at 1 year 4 months. Following her last parvo and distemper shot, I had titers run to prove the vaccines 'took'. They did indeed and I don't have any plans to repeat these vaccines as I believe that the production of antibodies infers the presence of long lasting memory cells. :smile2:

Now of course I don't expect others to do the exact same as me (and I'm not sure I would even follow the same course again), but I do think giving annual parvo/distemper shots is unnecessary.
 
So far Bailey had her 5 way booster shot (no lepto), rabies and bordetella (because she goes to doggie day care). When she turns a year and 4 months, she'll get her booster and rabies. After that, she only gets the rabies shot every 3 years, which is required by law. I'm going to titer her yearly to check her resistance and administer booster vaccines based on that. Lyme disease is pretty bad here, so I'm going to get her the lyme disease vaccine too.
 
DogIsMyMantra said:
I don't dislike vaccines. They can be a wonderful preventative tool and certainly have their place. However, I find the inappropriate use of vaccines rather disturbing. (for example, yearly vaccination for distemper and parvo which have been demonstrated time and time again by serology as well as challenge studies to have a longer duration of immunity)

My dog received parvo/distemper and rabies vaccinations as a pup and at 1 year 4 months. Following her last parvo and distemper shot, I had titers run to prove the vaccines 'took'. They did indeed and I don't have any plans to repeat these vaccines as I believe that the production of antibodies infers the presence of long lasting memory cells. :smile2:

Now of course I don't expect others to do the exact same as me (and I'm not sure I would even follow the same course again), but I do think giving annual parvo/distemper shots is unnecessary.
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I 100% agree.

If you are worried about your dogs' level of protection, why not just pull a simple titer test so that you don't vaccinate a dog who is already protected?

Here is a great video done by a fantastic veterinarian, Dr. Karen Becker, regarding vaccines. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkZWiZPJrMI&feature=related
 
At this point this is what I am using as my guideline.
http://www.acerlux.com/vaccines/caninevaccines.html

full report from AHAA
http://www.aahanet.org/PublicDocuments/VaccineGuidelines06Revised.pdf

Annual distemper/parvo has not been recommend for several years. In light of firm challenge studies that prove longer duration of immunity, this is the best the veterinarian profession has proven protection. We can not go on hunches or we think so. Titers are promising and encouraged by many but they do not always tell the whole truth. An animal may have no titer and be protected or a high titer and no immunity. But it is the only thing we have at the moment. The debate goes on and on. As more info is available, I will change my mind as needed.

As veterinarian if we say don't vaccine and the animal gets the disease we are at fault. But on the other hand. I think,if we vaccinate more than the recommendations we are also not looking out for our patients. The best answer is for everyone to talk to their veterinarian-pro and cons and then make the decison yourself. An informed consent if you will. No one should tell you when or how often to vaccine your animal., titer or no. There are risks both ways. With your veterinarian as your guide, measure those risks.

Jessica, the reason I said I would go minimum on vaccinations with a dog with a history of Demodex is that such a patient is not a total healthy dog(poor immune system). Vaccines should only given to heathy dogs. He is healthy now but the risks are higher for him with anything that stimulates the immune system.
 
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